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mike · 11-09-2009, 02:14 PM

Your children's future - our politicians on trial is the title of the 3rd British Constitution Group conference, taking place on the 13th October 2009, at Friends House, Euston Road, London.

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**welsh_messenger** · 12-09-2009, 12:14 AM

Guilty until you prove your own innocence is written all over this Government proposal in six foot high letters.

Minister uses Soham murders to justify placing one in four Britons on Big Brother child protection database

The Children's Minister claimed today that millions of Britons must be placed on a new Big Brother-style child protection database to stop a repeat of the Soham murders. Under the plan parents could face a £5,000 fine for driving their children's friends to a sports event or Cub Scout meeting if they have not been vetted first by the massive new government agency.

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Quote:And if you tolerate this, then your children will be next....Wake up Britain and take your country back!

~~peaceful~~ · 12-09-2009, 02:28 PM

Dear Mike,

I'm glad that you are at least planning to DO something. Please though, carefully consider the following, so that you do not end up as "the blind leading the blind", as usually happens with any kind of "resistance to tyranny".

FIRST, and MOST importantly, you MUST realize that the ONLY way to succeed in what you are striving to do is to get God Himself to help and fight with you. Without His Help, then you will fail. You MUST get God on your side, and then you are GUARANTEED success. God Himself said so.

To get God on your side you have to do what He tells you to do, because He is God and Right, and none of us are. God COMMANDS that ONLY His Law be used to judge people. Fortunately, God's Law is clear on the topic of treason and adultery, and the punishment is execution. You cannot go about trying to condemn/punish people via your own "laws" and "judgements". That is EXACTLY what started this mess to begin with. The ONLY way God will help you, and the ONLY way for you to succeed, is to judge people by God's Law, which is clear and simple for the common man to understand and implement if they choose to do so.

For example, the film "7/7 Ripple Effect", which has spread like wildfire all over Britain and the rest of the world destroying the British government’s credibility, was produced by a Man overflowing with PROOF of governmental treason, murder, theft, drug-dealing, etc, etc. You could, if you actually WANT to succeed with what you are planning, call Him as an expert witness, as He is also British/English, and Him or His film alone would be MORE than enough evidence to PROVE, by GOD’S Standard, that these people are guilty and should be executed IMMEDIATELY.

It really is that simple. God's Law is simple and straightforward and so are the judgements for the guilty. There is no 10 years of legal-nonsense to wade through. One day; one hearing; immediate enforcement of the judgement. Done. Not only is A.J. Hill the producer of the famed “7/7 Ripple Effect” film, He is also THEE expert on God's Law, and could help you all understand it, and enforce its judgements. He happens to be my Best Friend (and your's although you may not realize it yet), and so obviously I can contact Him to consider the options and do what He thinks is best. If you would like me to put you in contact with Him, please email me privately at debra.bythesea@gmail.com

Never forget that God gave us the Law, and He COMMANDS us to live by it, and if we do, He will help us every step of The Way. If you go about trying to do things without His Help, He is going to stand against you and you will fail. It is all simple logic.

Finally, as courts ALWAYS do to provide a lasting form of recorded proof of what happened during a trial/hearing, it is pretty much a NECESSITY to create a transcript of the "trial" in both video and written form. That's just common sense and something that hopefully will get done.

Please contact me at the above email address for more details.

God Bless.

Peaceful

discoveries · 14-09-2009, 12:06 AM

WILL ALL REVOLUTIONARIES PLEASE STEP FORWARD ?
well done to the British Constitution - bravo ! Below is an email sent to an MP who, like many MP's, is turning his back on the appalling plight of a lady who has had £2.5 million stolen through the racketeering of fraudster accountants (now convicted) working in tandem with their "regulators" and the Insolvency service. Can it get any worse ? Not really.
It's time to wake up the People. Or, to coin David Icke's spot-on phrase "Human race, get up off your knees!". It's time to 'say it how it is' and shake the tree in the Garden of Eden for new beginnings...may the British Constitution be that vehicle to take forward the Vision of Justice for a better existence for us ALL.

Re: The severe plight of Paulette Cooper, and thousands like her

You may have heard about One voice action group from your constitutuent, Paulette Cooper, with regards to the pressing issues that thousands of people in the UK are facing on account of our fraudulent and dishonest Monetary System ? Well, this is being copied to certain members of the Press and politicians, as it concerns the Public Interest.

I very much regret that you appear to have shut down your listening to Paulette Cooper's plight, and thousands of others like her. To be brutally honest, regardless of your rank, status or accolades, it is a pitifully poor response to turn your back on your fellow man and local constituent when the problems being brought to your attention are endemic and calling out for remedy. Not least, that to make a "recommendation" to Paulette, stating the obvious but also the unreachable: namely, to "seek legal advice and legal representation" when you have full awareness that such things need money, in very large amounts, yet I remind you that money is something one is seriously lacking when one has been defrauded, so this is, at best, insensitive and rather brutal in point of fact. If we can not meaningfully turn to those in the seat of 'power' at this time, nor to our MP's to assist us, then what hope is there for reform and raising the bar which is so urgently needed ? It stands to reason that if such indifference continues unchecked, then both you, and hundreds of MP's just like you, will have their positions reversed by the Majority as things have gone well beyond what can be deemed 'tolerable' for the British People.

Your decision to opt for passing the problem on to someone else is not helpful, and the answer is not in continuing with denial from one's MP. There is much that you could be doing to assist - not least, to organise a Parliamentary debate on this topic, and to file for an Early Day Motion on the Fraud of the FSA and the Bank of Scotland, working in tandem together. Is that really so much to ask of you ? It is actually as much your own problem as the rest of us, because a) we are all in this mess together; b) we are all at the effect of poor governance in the Financial, Regulatory, and Judicial sectors, c) and it is our politicians and MP's who have allowed things to deteriorate to this extent in the first place, so it is only reasonable to ask you to take some responsibility here. Do you take my point ? If not, I urge you to visit The British Constitution website, and to consider attending the event on 31 October in London next month, which may be quite an eye opener for you.
I enclose a link here for you:
Our Politicians On Trial
Posted: 11 Sep 2009 06:14 AM PDT
Your children’s future – our politicians on trial is the title of the 3rd British Constitution Group conference, taking place on the 31st October 2009, at Friends House, Euston Road, London. The first two conferences held by the British Constitution Group were a major success and brought some 1,000 people together to hear speakers exposing the [...]

With the best will in the world, it must be said that there is far too much burying ones head in the sand going on amidst our politicians and MP's, and sadly I do feel that you have failed to realise that your dismissive, dissociated, and disconnected approach, reflected by many other MP's just like you, is having a highly detrimental effect on the British People as a whole - because we are all in this together, no matter what you may believe, and no one is adequately dealing with the issues being raised, and I'm sure you do not need me to remind you that "what goes round, comes round".

I hope, therefore, you will re-visit this matter and take due regard of what is being shared and communicated with you, listening with your 'inner ears', you "inner eyes", and above all, your heartfelt compassion. You are in a strong position to do great good here: I respectfully implore you, please use it. Thank you for your consideration to this matter.

Yours in sincerity,
Elizabeth Watson
founder - ONE VOICE GROUP
http://www.one-voice-action-group.com

mike · 14-09-2009, 07:09 AM

Absolutely fantastic, Elizabeth. That's exactly the kind of thing we need - pressure directed in the right places.

lush · 14-09-2009, 04:00 PM

(12-09-2009 02:28 PM)peaceful Wrote: Dear Mike,

I'm glad that you are at least planning to DO something. Please though, carefully consider the following, so that you do not end up as "the blind leading the blind", as usually happens with any kind of "resistance to tyranny".

FIRST, and MOST importantly, you MUST realize that the ONLY way to succeed in what you are striving to do is to get God Himself to help and fight with you. Without His Help, then you will fail. You MUST get God on your side, and then you are GUARANTEED success. God Himself said so.

To get God on your side you have to do what He tells you to do, because He is God and Right, and none of us are. God COMMANDS that ONLY His Law be used to judge people. Fortunately, God's Law is clear on the topic of treason and adultery, and the punishment is execution. You cannot go about trying to condemn/punish people via your own "laws" and "judgements". That is EXACTLY what started this mess to begin with. The ONLY way God will help you, and the ONLY way for you to succeed, is to judge people by God's Law, which is clear and simple for the common man to understand and implement if they choose to do so.

For example, the film "7/7 Ripple Effect", which has spread like wildfire all over Britain and the rest of the world destroying the British government’s credibility, was produced by a Man overflowing with PROOF of governmental treason, murder, theft, drug-dealing, etc, etc. You could, if you actually WANT to succeed with what you are planning, call Him as an expert witness, as He is also British/English, and Him or His film alone would be MORE than enough evidence to PROVE, by GOD’S Standard, that these people are guilty and should be executed IMMEDIATELY.

It really is that simple. God's Law is simple and straightforward and so are the judgements for the guilty. There is no 10 years of legal-nonsense to wade through. One day; one hearing; immediate enforcement of the judgement. Done. Not only is A.J. Hill the producer of the famed “7/7 Ripple Effect” film, He is also THEE expert on God's Law, and could help you all understand it, and enforce its judgements. He happens to be my Best Friend (and your's although you may not realize it yet), and so obviously I can contact Him to consider the options and do what He thinks is best. If you would like me to put you in contact with Him, please email me privately at debra.bythesea@gmail.com

Never forget that God gave us the Law, and He COMMANDS us to live by it, and if we do, He will help us every step of The Way. If you go about trying to do things without His Help, He is going to stand against you and you will fail. It is all simple logic.

Finally, as courts ALWAYS do to provide a lasting form of recorded proof of what happened during a trial/hearing, it is pretty much a NECESSITY to create a transcript of the "trial" in both video and written form. That's just common sense and something that hopefully will get done.

Please contact me at the above email address for more details.

God Bless.

Peaceful

Hi Peaceful,

Strange that you are talking about execution ... The last thing we need to do is follow the example of execution... that is what has led us to this point. Especially as gods laws have been twisted to suit mans need for power. thou shalt not kill ... is the truth ... but then they killed almost all the original christians over two thousand years ago.. the only christians who survived did so because they hid. The correctors of the bible working for the powers that be; then changed the bible immensly 400 AD to suit their greedy pockets and to control and manipulate the masses and those original christians who survived this barbaric torture and execution were now named heretics by the newly formed catholic church and were once again murdered tortured and many burnt at the stake. Any man who claims mans need for revenge and death as Gods laws are highly dangerous unevolved religious beings!!! What would peace do? What would love do? If only folk took their hystory as taught with a pinch of salt and did their own research instead of following like blind sheep ... then the truth would set us all free . Love and Blissings

Lush Heart

~~Fremen~~ · 14-09-2009, 04:50 PM

10. YOU shall NOT murder - kill illegally.

The easiest example to explain this is. You have a God given right to self defence or more correctly, defence from evil.

If every one followed the COMMANDments there would be no problems. Unfortunately the world (hell) is not like that.

~~peaceful~~ · 15-09-2009, 02:07 PM

Why is 'rightful' execution strange if THEY refuse Peace.
Love your enemies means judge them by God's Laws and not your own judgements.

Jesus taught not to judge our fellow man because that is God's job and He has given His Judgements by which men are to be judged and those judgements are written in the Torah. If a person loves and serves only God and His Laws and truly loves his neighbor as much as he loves himself and in the manner that Jesus did (and Jesus gave his life for you), how could you possibly wrong anyone, whom you love as much as you love yourself and are willing to give your life for?

"The Truth (Christ) shall set you free (from the "Self") " has recently been posted here.
"We are all One" is also commonly used, and often misunderstood.

One is Father in Heaven; and not a bunch of humans joined together independent of Him,
and following the "Self". The world is currently being run on satan's logic.

~~~
Please take a look at an article and the associated comment.
http://100777.com/node/438

"This article/text was clearly written by satanists; however, a wise person recently reminded me that satanists (aka humanists) are not really as smart, as they would have people believe; as neither is the human, so they seek to keep everyone human-based, while they attempt, by delusion, to keep subdued the Spirit. Within this list, they have included the solution, though spoken arrogantly:
"We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one.
This they must never know!"

It is arrogance (rebellion against God) that is people's (and their) weakness. As one begins to 'see' that the human-animal body is not who you are, and that the real 'you' is a spirit-Being using the body 'you' are in, then the body you use and the physical, the humans around you, can be subdued and used (as God Wills). Unbeknown to many, the enemy can be put to 'sleep' too. As people begin to awaken, this is something to consider as well."
~~~

John Hill guides to a personal telepathic Direct Connection to God.
He has written the Book that clearly explains this.
12:30 With this Book, the mystery of God is now finished, and His truth published ... ,
it and the Gospel of The Kingdom will have been published, to all nations.
"The Way home or face The Fire"
http://www.thewayhomeorfacethefire.net

He has correctly translated and interpreted the Bible, as it was always intended to be.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

LLTK

lerustique · 15-09-2009, 07:36 PM

The Delphi Technique, and the Diamond Tactic.

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org...tactic.pdf

http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_...acf001.htm

Anyone and everyone attending the next Conference with good intentions must familiarise themselves with these methods of disrupting public meetings and skewing their direction that our enemies frequently employ.
This trial is such a wide open target! How will they be able to resist trying to wreck it?

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/spot...filtrators

http://aia.mahost.org/sec_cointelpro.html

~~Fremen~~ · 15-09-2009, 09:04 PM

The BBC question time program is a simple delphi technique, to see through and how they are used at meetings. Only so called experts on the panel. Questions can be put forward but then only chosen questions are answered with the panel playing good cop bad cop with answers already worked out by party spin doctors many of them using further delphi techniques. It's the way of most meetings, that's why I like open forums where honest questions can be asked. If they are not answered then something is wrong.

Also many on the panel as well as viewers are not always aware of it.

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Be aware of idolatry and don't lie to thy self.