Our Politicians On Trial

[Andy]

I'm new to this forum, I'm also a secular humanist.

Satanist however, no.

Hate to derail this thread more than it has been with the previous introduction of unseen forces as the basis for correct conduct.

Belief in Satan is akin to belief in any other proposed supernatural spiritual entity. Humanism reject the supernatural and spiritual as the basis for productive moral behaviour and conducive ethical reasoning.

[Fremen]

(18-09-2009 11:53 AM)Andy Wrote:  I'm new to this forum, I'm also a secular humanist.

Satanist however, no.

Hate to derail this thread more than it has been with the previous introduction of unseen forces as the basis for correct conduct.

Belief in Satan is akin to belief in any other proposed supernatural spiritual entity. Humanism reject the supernatural and spiritual as the basis for productive moral behaviour and conducive ethical reasoning.

Do you think the politicians should be held accountable if they refuse peace? and how ?

[lerustique]

Are you all nuts?
British politicians no longer deserve to be given the opportunity to accept peace. It is far too late for any of them! They regected peace years ago!
You make it sound as though they can just say "sorry" and that makes it OK. No!
IT MOST DEFINITELY DOES NOT!
NOW it is just about gaining power, arresting them, getting them into court and sentencing them - with the death penalty for the main culprits.
They have already chosen the path of war and happily walked down the path of death, killing and maiming millions on both sides in Iraq and Afghanistan. How many British politicians have resigned due to the horrors of these wars? No!
And voicing criticism of these wars from the green benches in the Commons while coining it in, and quaffing and and scoffing like greedy pigs is NOT GOOD ENOUGH! No!
They love the money too much to take a stand for human life, so they have forfeited their own to, either a long prison sentence or, the rope! And yes, there are still people in this country who have to guts, willpower, discipline and expertise to humanely perform this unpleasant fuction on behalf of the British people.

[Fremen]

Quote:“British politicians no longer deserve to be given the opportunity to accept peace.”

Those that have committed a crime and are guilty, deserve punishment.

Those that would replace them would have an opportunity to repeal all the false legislation and would not be guilty unless they continued enforcing false legislation.

If thousands of people were to say to those who would govern. You have to be public servants and not public masters and hirelings to a small financial oligarchy. Would have no choice but to back down and repeal all false legislation and no one would have to get hurt.

The problem is very few can agree on what is false legislation other than some more obvious ones like the murder of poor people who have harmed no one and the murder of British troops who then in turn become murderers.

When it comes to the Only solution and rebuilding with all the true Laws as the false ones are replaced. If the British people do not accept a certain person who does know all the true Law and accept Him as King and remain lost in anarchy (to keep it simple) due to cause and effect will be punished by other nations. And those who do decide to take note and take heed and abide by those Laws explained by Him will rebuild in another land. That is the choice.

[Fremen]

(22-09-2009 12:24 PM)Fremen Wrote:  

Quote:“British politicians no longer deserve to be given the opportunity to accept peace.”

Those that have committed a crime and are guilty, deserve punishment.

Those that would replace them would have an opportunity to repeal all the false legislation and would not be guilty unless they continued enforcing false legislation.

If thousands of people were to say to those who would govern. You have to be public servants and not public masters and hirelings to a small financial oligarchy. Would have no choice but to back down and repeal all false legislation and no one would have to get hurt.

The problem is very few can agree on what is false legislation other than some more obvious ones like the murder of poor people who have harmed no one and the murder of British troops who then in turn become murderers.

When it comes to the Only solution and rebuilding with all the true Laws as the false ones are replaced. If the British people do not accept a certain person who does know all the true Law and accept Him as King and remain lost in anarchy (to keep it simple) due to cause and effect will be punished by other nations. And those who do decide to take note and take heed and abide by those Laws explained by Him will rebuild in another land. That is the choice.

One way would be to send them an anonymous letter telling them if they don’t repeal all false legislation they are committing a capital offence and no trial or jury is required as their guilt is obvious.

http://jahtruth.net/plan.htm

[peacelovinman]

(18-09-2009 11:53 AM)Andy Wrote:  I'm new to this forum, I'm also a secular humanist.

Satanist however, no.

Hate to derail this thread more than it has been with the previous introduction of unseen forces as the basis for correct conduct.

Belief in Satan is akin to belief in any other proposed supernatural spiritual entity. Humanism reject the supernatural and spiritual as the basis for productive moral behaviour and conducive ethical reasoning.

A perspective on Secular Humanism, taken from a review of Steve Jackson's illuminating card game, "Illuminati: New World Order".

"The bottom of this playing card reads: "While you control this group, all straight or Conservative groups will be so distracted that any attacks they make against your other groups will be at -3 Power."

Certainly, Secular Humanism has been greatly instrumental in all of Western Society currently rejecting Jesus Christ, the Bible, and Judeo-Christian values. By far, the most serious impact has been in the field of Public Education. C.F. Potter and Thomas Dewey led the way in the period between World Wars I and II to completely re-write educational curricula -- gradually at first -- so that all Biblical values are overthrown. In Seminar One, "America's Leadership of the New World Order", we demonstrate how this subtle attack on our values system was carried out. The result is that, now, Christian parents must get their children out of Public Schools, for they are being conditioned to become good citizens of the global system of Antichrist!
Listen to Christian educator, Samuel Blumenthal, explain:

"It was thus Dewy who began to fashion a new materialist religion in which humanity was venerated instead of God. This is basically the religion of Secular Humanism, and this is what has become the official religion of the United States, for it is the only religion permitted in its public schools and totally supported by government funds." ["NEA: Trojan Horse In American Education", Samuel Blumenthal, p. 55]

Dr. Blumenthal then continues:

"But the undermining of the Judeo-Christian tradition was well underway when, in 1933, John Dewey and 33 other liberal humanists drew up and signed that extraordinary document known as the Humanist Manifesto. It reflected all of the influences of science, evolution, and the new psychology which were reshaping American education. It called for the abandonment of traditional religion and replacing it with a new secular religion better able to accommodate the new moral relativism in a man-centered, godless world." [Ibid., p. 226]"

[41dog]

(14-09-2009 07:09 AM)mike Wrote:  Absolutely fantastic, Elizabeth. That's exactly the kind of thing we need - pressure directed in the right places.

to many questions at the one voice group and looks like some kind of sophisticated scam but interesting nonetheless...

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ps: steve jackson's games aint just 'card games' but role-playing games, just thought I'd correct the error here...