60 Days to Doom

[Vortigern]

Considering her age the wish to 'deselect the Queen' would seem to be destined to be redundant. Also, changing the 'bloodline' has only ever been done by the elite for the benefit of the elite, and in modern historical times with ill-effect. The overthrow of James II by the Whigs may still be contentious in some quarters but none can deny the effects of the cancerous growth of the English Parliament which resulted, and which led inexorably to our present deplorable condition. If the Conservative Party had not overthrown Edward VIII we might not be having this discussion. There were other solutions in both cases. In Edward VIII's case the answer was morganatic marriage, I would suggest the solution in this case is the introduction of the main feature of 'salic law' agnatic succession.

However, changing the bloodline changes nothing. The real problem is parliament, the EU is just parliament writ large. I say we need to 'grow up' and move to a system without parliament. Destroy parliament and the parliamentary system and global government will lose its foundation stone in this nation.

[mike]

(09-08-2009 12:02 PM)Vortigern Wrote:  I say we need to 'grow up' and move to a system without parliament. Destroy parliament and the parliamentary system and global government will lose its foundation stone in this nation.

What kind of system do you have in mind? What happens when you destroy Parliament?

[Olive Farmer]

Great summary of the current threats Mike.
The Anglo American warmongers and their usurious masters behind the scenes have since 9/11 slaughtered 1.9 million souls in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. This is the first stage in their plan for global warfare, coming soon.
The theft of trillions and the collapse of the western economies with its concomitant domino impact on the rest of the world will engender global famine and internecine warfare. Coming soon.
The last 60 years have seen startling growth in cancer deaths, new killers like HIV/AIDS and many more sicknesses. This new flu, and likely its vaccine, will bring more death. A new highly dangerous strain will emerge, they tell us, soon.
I often remark that the conjunction of War Famine Pestilence and Death on such a scale is reminiscent of the prophetic End Times. It is interesting to view the drawing together of these threats to the existence of mankind, rapidly approaching a dreadful confluence, then to consider the apathy and disinterest of the sheeple.
There isn't an elephant in the room, there's an enormous rabid bull elephant in must, bristling with weapons of destruction, weeping sickness and disease from its pores, eating everything in the house and now turning its baleful red eye on them. Meanwhile, they turn over the channel to watch "Britain's Got Talent" ("But No Future").
There has never been a time in the history of mankind when the flow of events pointed more certainly to the outcomes anticipated and yet the people were less engaged. This lack of engagement and suspension of reason, engendered by 60 years of post war propaganda and mind control in many forms is a modern day Judas Goat; their ignorance leads them into the slaughterhouse. Like children, they bury their heads under the sheets if you tell them a boogeyman is coming.
Well, the boogeyman is here.
I'm finding it difficult to arrive at alternative conclusions after reading these signs, interpreting the ebb and flow of current events and predicting the outcome, mindful of the hidden hands guiding the world's history in the making. These same hidden hands gave us fascism, WW2, communist Russia, the Cold War, the War on Terror, the Great Depression (then and now). They think nothing of plunging the planet into global armageddon, think nothing of subjugating peoples and setting up death camps, always find willing servants amongst us to serve as Gestapo, Stasi, jackbooted villains of opression.
One example of hegelian reasoning going on: They have planned for years to give us this flu. High amounts of vitamin D are very effective at preventing this illness. High levels of vitamin D are obtained from the sun. They have been telling us to keep out of the sun for years, citing skin cancer. Many dark skinned people suffer from very low vitamin D (these eugenicist swine are race selective in their plans...) High vitamin D levels also combat cancer, hence the lower incidence of cancer mortality as the equator is approached, higher as you move towards the poles.
Love is the answer to all "how should we govern ourselves" questions. Begin with love and all else will follow. This one idea is the only effective response to the threats of evil that surround us, for only good can defeat evil.

[John Morton]

Vortigern

If you think the EU is a presidential system you do not understand the EU, or presidential systems in general.

[Vortigern]

(10-08-2009 02:17 PM)John Morton Wrote:  Vortigern

If you think the EU is a presidential system you do not understand the EU, or presidential systems in general.

Explain?

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(09-08-2009 06:57 PM)mike Wrote:  

(09-08-2009 12:02 PM)Vortigern Wrote:  I say we need to 'grow up' and move to a system without parliament. Destroy parliament and the parliamentary system and global government will lose its foundation stone in this nation.

What kind of system do you have in mind? What happens when you destroy Parliament?

I would rather a variety of institutions, either in parallel or arranged in hierarchy, including a monarch at top and a multitude of real local government below, rather than the centralisation and domination by parliament. So when when evil does again rear its head, as alas human nature being what it is it will do, then the whole body will not be infected and corrupted as has occured under the present system.

I am aware that it can be argued, as Oborne has so forcefully done, that the problem is the political class which transcends institutions. Clearly political parties would also have to be abolished (though in the 'post-democratic' state they already seem to be an irrelevancy) and I think if there is enough localisation it would be impossible for such a class to form and achieve dominance through every sphere of political activity everywhere all at the same time.

We must remember that our history is a history of institutional change, not conservation as some believe. At the moment things have changed for the worse. Who knows, perhaps the best we can hope for is a change to the not-as-worse, but we should always keep in mind that change is not only possible but inevitable. Bismarck said something along the lines that you cannot change the course of history merely steer and hope to land at a good harbour.

[Quietman]

(08-08-2009 08:22 AM)mike Wrote:  

(07-08-2009 07:50 PM)Robert Wrote:  I agree that it's time to grow up and move to a system without a monarchy. Goodness ! If we can't even do this what sort of nation are we ?

We're a nation with a long history - one that most people will be reluctant to let go, even when its not too good for them. As a first step, we can get things working with what we've got, and so for me, getting rid of the Bank of England is a much higher priority than the Monarchy.

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Robert you are bang on, if this was done we would not have to worry about the Monarchy, but these Royalists will not go easy if the postings on this page are anything to go by

[mike]

(12-08-2009 10:58 AM)Quietman Wrote:  Robert you are bang on, if this was done we would not have to worry about the Monarchy, but these Royalists will not go easy if the postings on this page are anything to go by

If you're referring to me, you're missing the point. I am not a Royalist, far from it. Read the front page of the British Constitution Group website, along with the section on the Constitution to get a flavour of my position. If we get rid of the Monarchy, we get rid of one of the parties to the Constitutional contract. Not clever.

I am not a Royalist. I am a realist. One step at a time is the way we need to proceed if we are to hold this country together.

I do not want to maintain the Windsors. I do want to maintain the Crown - an institution we should be running, but which has been subverted. I do want to maintain the Constitution, because it is ours, and the only way it should be changed is by referendum.

Unless the present Monarch is prepared to do her job, we should get rid of her. Choose someone else. Get on with taking back the sovereignty we should have, as the People. Particularly our economic sovereignty. I put getting shot of the Bank of England well ahead of getting rid of the Monarchy.

[Revolution Harry]

(12-08-2009 06:38 PM)mike Wrote:  I put getting shot of the Bank of England well ahead of getting rid of the Monarchy.

I agree. The institution in most need of dismantling is the Bank of England and with it the 'Venetian' monetary system.

I recently came across an article by a retired American judge that some may find interesting. It covers things from an American perspective but still has some information pertinent to this country. Here are a few snippets.

"One thing the Founding Fathers did not know, was that all of the Kings lands and all future acquisitions such as the AMERICAS, had been given and pledged by King John to Pope Innocent III and the Holy Roman Church, by the Treaty of 1213."

"We are presently living under the Babylonian Talmud, which was introduced to England in 1066 and has been enforced by the Pope, various Kings and every religious Order since. "

"Prior to 1066, many of the Kings subjects [Lords and Dukes] held allodial deeds to land, which are land grants from the King or past Kings and which prevented the present King or his agents from taxing, trespassing or enforcing his will upon those subjects. Land protected by an allodial deed and improved by a home made the subjects, Sovereigns in their own right and the king of his castle. In 1066, William the Conqueror defeated England and stole the Kings Title, his lands and the lands belonging to his subjects. From William I (1066) to King John (1199), England found itself in dire straights because it was bankrupt! During this span of time, parishioners routinely passed their land onto their family or to the church without the Kings permission. So the King invoked the ancient, “Law of Mortmain,” also known as “the dead man’s hand,” which is our modern day probate law. 

The Pope and the Vatican objected to the “Law of Mortmain” because the King owed the Vatican a lot of gold he had borrowed and this law now prevented the church from receiving gifts of land. In 1208, England was placed under Papal interdiction (prohibition) and King John was excommunicated. King John was ignorant of the teachings of the Bible and was made to believe by Pope Innocent III, that the Pontiff was the “Vicar of Christ;” the ultimate owner of everything on earth, and the only one who could grant the King absolution for his sins; providing the King make a suitable gesture of repentance to the Pope and the Holy Roman Church!

The word “VICAR” is defined in Webster’s 1828 English Dictionary, to mean, “A person deputized or authorized to perform the function of another, a substitute in office,” and thereafter, all of the Popes since Pope Innocent III, pretend to be Jesus Christ on earth. In his attempt to regain his stature, King John offered the Pope and the Holy Roman Church his Kingdom, plus 1000 gold marks each year as payment of a lease on the land, and he accepted the Pope’s appointed representative [appointed ruler] and swore submission and loyalty to Pope Innocent III and the Holy Roman Church. In 1213, a Treaty was entered into between the King and the Pope. The Treaty made the King a tenant of his former Kingdom and a trustee to the Pope and the Holy Roman Church. The Kings ancestors were later appointed Treasurer of the Vatican Bank and continue to serve in that capacity to date. [See: Treaty of 1213; and the Papal Bulls of 1455 to 1492; and The Selected Letters of Pope Innocent III concerning England from 1198 - 1216, Thomas Nelson and Sons, Ltd. 1956]. In 1215, the Barons of England reacted to the loss of their rights and privileges they once enjoyed before the 1213 Treaty, and so they revolted against King John and stormed the castle. Under the threat of death, they forced him to sign a document that recognized their stature and spelled out their individual rights! The document was named the Magna Carta."

[davidlyme]

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[peaceful]

In regards to "60 Days to Doom":

At this point, effective action (Works of Faith) is the consideration.
The truth-seeker movements are effectively worthwhile, as there are people still very spiritually asleep;
and fall short when that information becomes defined as the truth, when in reality it
is exposing the lie; this is a necessary distinction in the understanding of what to do.

Last evening, I viewed the movie V for Vendetta. The film was publicly released 2005.
Included in the story-line was the death of 80,000 people from a man-made plague;
and now in 2009 we see this as a possible and likely reality in much worse proportion.
THEY are planners/followers with a leader (satan is their master); consider that truth.